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Dec. 5.
TDABeCHcbOiydNAeEFdMElMyRatlSgIEiATCenNTaoCtDESEenEEsetrSlOaiabIdFJsKOeirctTaoCt3HCtoOiroELytnIhAUsC8A,MISREBRtTCoUtLecUrSs.iIuI.eTOlstLCoTNOloMl.d.- THREETEES' THOUGHTS. BROOKLYN BUDGET. PHILADELPHIA POINTERS. TOO MUCHJTURKEY. A meeting of the Association circuit com- mittee was held at Columbus ou the 25th ult. Those present wen1: Xach Phelps, Louisville; C. Von dar Ahe, St. Louis; Julian B. Hart, Boston, and II. C. Williams, Chicago. Mr. uarni« was wired to -attend the meeting, but could not go. The party held a lone consultation, alter which it was announced that those present hud agreed upon these points, viz: The American Association will consist of but eight clubs next season; the Columbus Club will not be dropped, and the percentage plan will be relumed. Exactly how Columbus i* to be retained in n eight-club circuit without pulling out Milwaukee or some other club was not revealed. It was hinted, however, that the franchise of either Louisville or Milwaukee would be purchased, and that the object of the visit to Columbus was to learn if the Columbus officials would stand their share of the expense. Of course all this sort of talk is for the purpose of concealing something. But whilethe magnates were about it they should have agreed upon one story for the public, instead of the "go-as-you-please system. Mr. Phelps for instance, upon his return to Louisville, was quoted as saying that "ihe ooject of his visit was to reinsure [he management of the Columbus Club, which believed that it waa about to be frozen out of the Association, something that would not happen. The circuit committee of the American Association bus agreed upon a ten-club schedule. It has not ye.t been decided where the tenth club LOUISVILLE LINES. will be located, but it is believed it will be in New York or Brooklyn." Mr. You der Ahe, ou the other hand, told q uite a different story when he returned to St. Louis. Instead oi a ten-club circuit, »s stated by Mr. Phelps. Mr. Von der Ahe declared that there would be but eight clubs in the Association circuit next season, end that the organization would not consolidate with the League. The Cohimhus management, however, seem to be pretty well satisfied with the result of Ihe conference, judging from the tone of the Columbus papers and the happy vein in which our special Columbus correspondent, Jimmy Williams, writes of the recent meeting. His letter is appended: COHJMBCS APPARENTLY HAPPY. The Clnb Tliinfcs It Has Assurance of Con tinued membership in the A**o«iatloi» -- S >me Echoes of the Association Gatherin-, Etc. COLPMTCUS, 0.. NOT. 30. Editor Sporting Life: Everybody interested in base ball matters in this section of the country is happy to-day, because, for the first time since the Chicago Club was first talked of last summer, the question as to where Columbns will be found nest season is settled, ami settled in a way that is satisfactory to magnates, newspapers and the public. We will be found Doing Business in the American Association, and with as good a team as Mr. S-limelz' judgment, backed up by Messrs. Bom and Lazarus' cash, can cct together. IMPORT AST MEETING. President 2»ch Phelps, Chris Von der Ahe, President Williams, of Chicago, and Julian B. Hart, of Boston, quietly dropped into this city yesterday at noon from their respective homes. They were soon in consultation with Messrs. Born, I.szarus and Schuielz, which consultation lasted until about nine o'clock last night, and from all that could be learned was eminently satisfeetort to all parties. When I sow the ptirty as iney were taking supper at Colone.1 Lou Smith's cozy European Hotel ou Broad street, the best of feeling prevailed, and as the wine went round it would have taken a pretty sharp fellow to detect even the slightest evidence of dissatisfaction. A majority of the circuit and Finance Committees were present, as well as a representative from a majority of the clubs in the Association, so that any action they might decide upon auy question would be pretty nearly conclusive. COI.CMIiUS WILL BK IN IT. President Phelps, when asked tlie object of the meeting, stated that there had been so many and such conflicting reports going the rounds HS to the Association's intention and desires concerning the Columbus Club, that he had eome here for the purpose of assuring them that there was no desire on the part of the Association to have them retire. That no plan Cor the make-up of the circuit for next season would be considered that left them out. He thought that they had been able to con vince the Columbus magnates of their feelings in the matter, and that the feeling of soreness over the reports that they were to lie forced out of the Association were unfounded. He acknowledged that the gentlemen pn-sent had talked over the circuit question, but had arrived at no conclusion. He would not intinnte what the circuit would be or what the committee favored, lie would only say that circuit matters were in a satisfactory condition and that developments would soon be made. The result, he claimed, would be more than satisfactory to every friend of the Association. THE tWEI.VE-CLUB LEAGUE. Mr. Phelps said that the gentlemen present were unanimous in their opposition to the twelve league scheme ot the National League, and would not consider it for a moment. The Association was in favor of peace, but would not voluntarily give up its existence to accompliah it. The other gentlemen present each expressed himself to tlie same effect, some of them in considerably stronger language than that used by the president, not ably Von der Ahe and Williams. This was especially significant «s five out of the nine Association clubs were represented. Mr. Pbelps expressed himself as rather humiliated to think that the League people thought so little of the ability and good sense of the Association people as to make such a proposition to them, involving, as it would, the dissolution of the Association and the enforced retirement of some of itsclubs. COLUMBUS SATISFIED. "President Born, Treasurer Cohen and Manager Schmeli were seen and each expressed himself as highly plenqrd with the result of tjie meeting. President Born said that while they had made up their minds to sell if the Association insisted upon it, they would much rather stay in the business. He was also plod to learn that many of the reported snyings and doings by the Association people were untrue. Manager Schraelz was especially happy that the matter was settled »nteam will be especially strong in pitching and hitting those two winning features. I asked him if they Anticipated any trouble from Sunday games, and, to my surprise, be said yea, but added, immediately, that the trouble would be to get grounds large enough to hold the people. He claims the people in Chicago are with the Associatiou Club, owing to its cheap rates and Sunday games, and also because its team will have at least two Chicago players on it Hunk O'Day and young Parrott. The Association people seemed to be very much pleased with rrt-sidtuit Williams and hUhusclingmethods, and feel certain of a grand success in Chicago.
NOTES. Chris don't seem worried in the least over the loss of his men, although Stivetts, Comiskey, O'Xeill, McCarthy, Hoy and Lyons are already gone and Boyle and Fuller may also go.
President Hart savs U is by no means a sure thing that Dan Brouthers won't play in Boston next season, although It seems a sure thing that Joyce has gone- Trie Associatiou pe«ple say the League can't w»rk any bull-pen racket on the public next year for twenty-five cents. They will have to give as good a seat for a quarter as they have previously given for a halfdel lur.
Treasurer Cohen intimated to some parties that it would be an eight-club circuit in 13M. It is a dead open and shut that the division of receipts will be the same as last year. It is the only fair and sensible method of division.
Has the contract-jumping commenced, and are Tnylor and Jenningsthe fellows to inaugurate it? The magnates had better beware. The public won't stand another attack of this disease like that which raged last year.
The Association and League should get together and agree to recognize and hold inviolable each other's contracts. The Association claim they are willing to enter into such an agreement.
Von der Ahe thinks highly of Newell, his new third baseman.
Who will compose the Columbus team for
1892? Duflee and O'Rourke are the only
men signed so far. It will be composed of
hitters, however, as the management will
accede to the loudly expressed preference in
this respect.
Tlie Corn Crackers Thunderstruck by the Jump of Tuylor fend Jennln«s--Various Opinions Expressed--Minor Mention. LOUISVILLE. Ky., N«v. 30. Editor S POSTING LIFE: Of course, there is but one topic here in base ball circles, and that is the desertion of Taylor and Jcnnings. It is no exaggeration to say that base ball people were thunderstruck. If there were auy two players in whom the patrons of the spurt had especial confidence, they were Taylor and Jvnnings. When Raymond aud Ehret jumped Louisville aud went to Lincoln, people were not so much surprised, but Taylor and Jennings, the former iu particular, were implicitly trusted, and although it was known that both had been approached by League officials, it was believed that they would scorn the temptation. Both had had the choice to sign with League clubs before they left here tor their homes, but when they renewed their contracts and expressed themselves as perfectly satisfied with their salaries, no one had any doubt of them. Shortly before Jeuuings left for Pennsylvania I met him and Manager Chapman at the Fifth Avenue Hotel, where both were boarding. I aske 1 Jennings how he liked Louisville as a place to play ball in. "It is » cood town," lie replied, "and I like to play in it. I am treated well here aud I have nothing to coniolain of." This was after the regular season had closed and all the exhibition games had been played and the club was then getting ready to disbaud.
BOTH GIVEN UP. Manager Chapman has both telegraphed and written from New York, and isstiil denying, that Taylor and Jenniugs have jumped, though he states that the New York officials are tampering with them. It is not doubted, however, by anybody here that they have really jumped to New York, great as has been the surprise created by it. Aside from the criminality of contract-breaking, I believe that it will be a bad thing for both players, despite the fact that a place on the New York team is worth more than a place on the Louisville team. Jennings is very yrKMig and to a certain extent inexperienced, and in such a prominent club as the New Yorks he might get a backset that would injure his future prospect*. He has done very brilliant work for Louisville. There is no questioning that, but he might at first have a hard row to hoe in New York. As for Taylor, his jump has created more surprise here than that of any other player could. Taylor is a young man ot much intelligence, has been educated at college and is studying law. It was supposed that his law studies had given to him high ideas about the validity of contracts, or at least the moral criminality of breaking them.
8TUCKT STILL HOPES. President Stucky keeps as stiff an upper lip as he can about the matter. He has doubts thatTaylorand Jennings havejumped, but says if they have that he will tight the matter in the courts. I found President Phelps standing on the steps of the Kenyou Building. "I have not yet had a talk with any of the Louisville officials about the matter," he said, "but it looks, from what I have read in the papers, as if Taylor and Jennings were irretrievably gone! It does not speak well for Le;igue tactics, does it, to induce Association players, especially younz fellows like Jennings, to break their contracts?'' Director Larry (ratio has been in New York for several dnys with Manager Chapman. He probably heard that the League was tampering with Jennings and Taylorand went there to help keep them for Louisville, if lie could. So far nothing has been heard from Mr. Gatto.
A. MYSTERIOUS E5IISSABY. The report has been started here that the enticing away of Taylor aud Jennings was the beginning of A Plan of the League to break up the Louisville Club by taking all its good players. Color was gi ven to this report by "the fnct that a man who gave his name as Snowden called upon Dr. Stucky and asked him what he would take for the franchise of the Louisville Club. He stated that ail the good players were going to desert Louisville, and that the franchise could not be worth much. Dr. Stueky replied that the franchise was not for sale, and that the Louisville Club would pull through all right. Some of the local papers suggested thnt the so-called "Snnwden" was in reality Soden of the Boston League team, but'this seems exceedingly improbable. It was probably some irresponsible or unimportant person. The story that the League ji going to make a combined raid on Louisville seems equally as improbable.
Red Ehret has signed with Pittsburg. The
same club is after Raymond, but the latter
holds off, probably for more money. Buck
enber^er came here to see them.
Manager Chapman has written a letter to
the Evening Times, of this city, in which he
says that it is impossible for Taylor and Jen-
niugs to say anything against their treatment
in Louisville.
President Phelps now says that in his be-
lief there will be ten clubs in the Association
next season.
Louisville has not yet anybody in view to
fill the places made vacant by Taylor and
J. A.
If ever the whole country was nick of the
infantile, idiotic, Imbecilic maggot muss, it is
about so now; aud if ever there was a time
The Raltiraore Sage Favorable to a Con for people to come to their senses and do
solidation, But Still Harping on a Slxteen- something sensible the time is now. How
Club Aft'air--Th« Key-Note of the situa would it do for the magnates to prepare for
tion Grasped--The Fublio Ilretl of the Christmas and put a little piece of peace in
the stocking of the base ball public.
BALTIMORI!, Dec 1. Kdltor SPORTING LIFE: Matters are apparently quiet in Conchologicaltown, but there is an undercurrent of activity which does not appear on the surface. The club has agents in different directions, who are on the alert f«r playing talent, and no doubt enough will begotten
Say, do you tee the fun looming up in the 8t. Lonis future? Chris and Glasscock. There is a combination for you. Watch it. Well now, "honest Injun," what do yon Phillies think of Barnie as a hustler? He can get there when there is some money back ot him, can't he? Told you so. T. T. T.
to keep up the reputation of the team. Some I
of the players already gotten are compara-
tively unknown, but some of the best Balti-
more ever had (Kilroy, for instance) were at one time in the same boat. To a certain extent the employment of players from organizations outside of the Association and League is always an experiment, but the people who have engaged these players should be able to make a good estimate of the playing ability of a mau. Sam Trott and George Van Haltren have been the GARNERING AGENTS BO fkr, and Sam has often proven that he has a good eye. Gilbert and Johnson are his protegea, and you don't want anything better than thoselads. Van Haltren also should be able to take in the points of a ball player, and as he is to have charge of the team, and the reputation of the club as well as his own as a manager depends somewhat on the success of 'he team, he will no doubt exercise the b««t judgment hecan bring to bear in making his selections. To a very great extent Van's ability as a managing player will be at stake, and it therefore follows that he recognizes that fact and that the men he engages fill the bill in his estimation. Patrons will have an opportunity to judge fairly of the team
The Twelve-club Plan FnUy Understood and Highly Favorer! by the Church City Knthnslaata--Just What It Means to Every Day Patrona--Talk of the Team and Com ments on Other Subject*. BROOKLYN, Dec. 1. Editor SPORTING LIFE: The good of the game is the best topic nowadays, and the twelve-club circuit is the theme that seems to please most her*. The people posted on base ball in this vicinity have not been slow in catching on to the hgppy condition of atftirs that THE ESTABLISHMENT of such a circuit would produce, and there are few who have not ere this realized that those who are opposing the new project are actuated by selfish motives. Bro&klymtes are close readers on base ball matters, and generally understand the wails that come via Columbus, the Windy City and other axe-to-griud locations. The opposition and explanation thereof in those places can betaken in as one runs a halt and minute inquiry being quite unnecessary and so little comment is heard as new stories sprung iu the affected districts are wafted this 'way.
only after it has been demonstrated on the field of just what calibre they are. Pitcher Frank Horqer has arrived home with
TO ONB QUEST. The subject has been reduced to the single query ''Will it come to pass?" All fully recognize that the new project would mean a
rapidly-moving procession and constant
which has increased his weight to 165 pounds change of faces. Instead of a long series of
just 30 more than he ever weighed before. games at one time oa the home grounds, it
Danny Rlchardann Satisfied--Manager Pat Powers Squares Hiiuself-Th* Doiugi of the Local Club--A IleiulnUconco of the Old Athletic Club--local news Note* and Gossip. PHILADELPHIA, Dec. 2. The statement* sent out by New York parties to the effect that Danny Richardson is dissatisfied with his Athletic contract,commented upon in our last issue, has created eome stir in baseball circles. The effect, however, has only been to strengthen the Athletic Club's hold npon the great second baseman. According to a despatch from Elinira Danny Ilichnrclson was very much surprised at the allegation that he was uncertain as to his contract with the Wagner brothers. Danny said that he had never yet broken a contract and never would. He stated that the Wagners had no disagreement with him, and he would do as he agreed in his contract as far as playing with the Athletics was concerned. PAT POWERS SQUARES HIMSELF. In the New York despatches it was intimated that the source of the stories about Richardson's alleged dissatisfaction was Manager Pat Powers, of the New York Club. That gentleman, however, denies this most emphatically in the following letter: "JERSBT Cirr, N. J., Nov. 30. Editor SPORTING LIFB- In justice to me will you kindly «tate in your next issue that there is no truth ia " the report that I expecteu to have Danny Riohardson break with tbe Wagner brothers. On my return from the Eastern Association meeting at Buffalo I was held over in Elrairl on Recount of a break on the Erie Railroad, anJ while stopping over nisht at tlte Ba'.hburn llonsc, Elmirx, Kick unison, by ch:»noe, stopped at tbe hotel. Dan and I were together fully four houra, and during that time the idea of his breaking away from Philadelphia never was breathed. "During my stay in Elmlra I w«s ente.-tained by Richardson simply as a friend, and wbhe we naturally talked base ball it waa of a personal nature. On parting we wished enoh other good luck in our new venture*. I*. T. PUWKRS."
About the middle of January he will go up would mean reasonably short stays and
to coach Yale to a standard which he hopes pleasantly brief intervals, during which the The Athletic Club is still negotiating with
will down the other college teams aud make jadeS cranks would be given opportunity to
it warm, for the professionals in tlie usual recuperate and a chance to get a swing at
spring exhibition games. Frank has hud other matters.
ly a qi
several offers for an engagement for the season of 1392, but declines to make any definite arrangement until later. Knowing how conscientious you are In base ball matters, your editorial is convincing that you believe the twelve-club scheme is A GOOD ONB for the game, and that you believe the League people would faithfully carry out any arrangements they might make with the Association looking toward a perfection of that plan. But it is probable you are not surprised at the reluctance of Association people to eome forward with confidence and grasp the hand that has so maNY Times been raised against them, even if now the shapely and deft member is almost hidden by the rich foliage of the olive branch it holds forth. After so much experience of the bad faith of the League people the Association cannot be blamed for b«'ug wary. The Association is a lion tamer, and the League is the lion. The tamer has exhibited the noble animal to the public ninny tisies, and has sometimes even performed the daring feat of inserting his head between the jaws of the powerful beast and pulled it out again a trifle disfigured but still iu the ring. Every time the turner performs this feat he is usually GLAD HE IS ALIVB after it is done, and now he has nearly come to the conclusion that it is a dangerous act., anyway, and better to have done with it before the lion bites his head off clean. Tne tamer really believes that consolidation would in this great animal act mean that the lion wolild incorporate the tamer into him-' self by simply chewing him up and swallowing him, perhaps spitting out a few of the bones and unpalatable parts, and that then he; the tamer, would become merelv something eaten, well-digested, and eventually pass the way of all such waste. That is not a very enticing picture for the tamer to contemplate Ucnce the reluctance, Now if the lion could only talk good, fair, square United States, and give good and sufficient bond that the talk should be curried out in good faith, and that the tamer should not be eaten up, body and limb, so that tuere might not be neither name nor remembrance of him forever, then perhaps the tamer might listen. Can the lion gives this security? If he can, will he? Perhaps if the tamer (jould be convinced of that, the whit* antrel of peace might hover in all her purity over the situation. Then it would be the lion and the lady and the tamer. The propositien of PresidentRobison is unquestionably a business one to THE BACKBONE, and the gist of it is to consolidate in Boston aud Philadelphia and purchase in Chicago, aud he believes that there would be no second clubs in those cities ever, because "an organization that would desert a purely National League, as a twelve-club circuit would undoubtedly be, would cut off its nose to spite its face." True, desertion would be the least danger to fear. But where the territory has been shown to be so productive, what is to keep other enterprising people from organizing second clubs there, and by cultivating the territory in other large and growing cities eventually bring forth another formidable American Association to divide the patronage? To be sure, this might not he done in one season, or two, but it could be more readily and more quickly done than formerly, because THE PROFESSION has now grown so large, and first-class playing talent is so abundcnt, that twelve clubs could not give it all employment, and there is a lari;e overflow that would be available for a rival. Mr. Robison will find that in the future the question will be one of available territory, and not one of desertion from a twelve-club league. If they want permanent peace, or one reasonably permanent until at least another decade has given such growth to the whole country as to justify another rival of the same calibre, they must occupy every available foot of territory which is measurod by the standard of ability to join in with others to make major lengue base ball. The three large cities, Philadelphia, Boston and Chicago are just such territory for a second club, and there is no getting around it. If the League absorbs the present clubs iu those cities, it will have to from time to time goon absorbing others which have grown to the danger point. No, the only sure way is to occupy the ground and cater to all the patronage, and then there is none left for a rival to thrive on. Of cours*
TRYING THE CRANK. Those advocates of two clubs for large cities, with non-conflicting schedules and a game every day in the season, reckon without their host when they contemplate forcing anything like that on base ball patrons. The most intense enthusiast must eventually tire when the thing is overdone. No matter what his fancy runs to, force a superabundance on him and immediately that which de! ighted him will begin to pall on his taste,and sooner or later he will turn away for a change. When the base ball enthusiast is considered the fact must not overlooked that he occasionally makes sacrifices in several waYs in order to gratify his longing. He may slight business, shift dinner, put off an engagement and so on, sooner than miss the game. Ha feels that if he does not attend the diamond battles daily that he will miss something that»will be a source of regret during the season or longer than that, and so he goes along giving himself up entirely, until som« day something happens, occasioned probably by neglect of business or a kindred matter, aud his ardor is suddenly turned to disgust. SACRIFICES NOT NECESSARY. Under the twelve-club arrangement there will be no call for a long run of steady attendance. The breaks in the stays of the home club on the home grounds will be sufficiently and pleasantly frequent to serve as treats and euhauce interest in the game. It is this feature, and also the steady financial drain occasioned by the old methods, that have been digested by the base ball regulars in this city, and which is now their strongest argument for and endorsement of the new project. It is a pretty good omen for any enterprise, when people will go so deep into it as the enthusiasts have gone into the twelveclub plan in this city. 1 dnd the one sentiment everywhere, and that is in favor of the change and the hope that it will go through. THE OUTLOOK BOSY. That it will seems almost assured at this writing, although it is not right to lose sight at any time of that old proverb that runs: "The best laid plans of mice and men aft gang aglee." President Byrne appears to be rather confident and apprehends trouble from only one or two sources. He told me to-day that he had received dispatches from diB'erent points that made him feel easy. Boston, Baltimore, St. Louis and Philadelphia are counted on the safe side, and the obstacles presented in the Windy City are not considered insurmountable. To-day the situation, from a Brooklyn standpoiut, appears decidedly rosy. QUIET AND EASY. Matters are a trifle passive so far cm the local olub is concerned. The affairs of the organization seem to be moving along smoothly, and all the gossip of dissension is falling off. The fact has dawned on most people who have followed this matter that base ball clubs are very material and smack much of the world, which means that individuals seldom count in the matter of organizations and general affairs. Tom, Dick or Harry may sulk and drop out, but matters move along just as though the individual hud never existed, and the axiom of course applies to the Brooklyn Club. FOUTZ AND HIS JIG. Dave Foutz having danced his little jig in the public eye has settled down to enjoy another wiuter in the City ot Churches. It is too bad that Secretary Kalbfus, of thg Washington Club, did not know before his visit to this city that twice the sum he offered Foutz to play at the Capital would not havedra^ged Mr. Scissors from the Brooklyn Club. I wonder whether Colonel Kalbfus has come to the conclusion yet that he was the victim of a Foutz jolly. While on this subject it might not be out of the way to call attention to different stories floating about in which Uncle Scissors is quoted as being determined not to do this and as fully set on doing that, and of having made up his mind to have his own way in several matters or sever his connection with the Brooklyn Club, all of which are pure rot. Mr. Foutz is prepared to obey orders, and he will sign his 'S*2 contract with that fact fully set forth and understood. ABOUT TUB TEAM. The modes of arranging the Brooklyn team set forth daily by the knowalls in different parts of the country are as varied as a hos's diet. The statement I made last week in THE SPORTING LIFE to the effect that nothing definite has been arranged as yet, and that contingencies cut a large figure in the settlement of the team question still goes. I might name certain men who will in all probability be dropped from the club's roll,
now between him and the Athletic Club, and it is more than likely that the man will be signed ere this greets the reader. Manager Barnie saw pitcher Ad Gumbert while he was in Pittsburg last week, and,it is claimed, secured his consent to play with the Athletics under certain conditions. What these condition* arc Barnie and Gumbert only know. It is believed, however, that ii Gumbert fails to make satisfactory terms with Anson he will join the Athletics. An exchange of Hoy for Jimmy Ryan, the heavy-hitting Chicago centre fielder, is among the probabilities. The two pitchers whom the Philadelphia Club is negotiating with are young Carsey, late of the Washington Club, and Frank KIHUISS, late of Clevcloud. Knauss has been released from Cleveland's reservation in order to permit him to do business with the Philadelphia Club. Kuauss is the lefthanded phenomenou whose arm went back ou him last season. He thinks his arm is in as good condition riow as it ever was. He thought so late iu the season, but decided not to use it again until the member had been given a winter's rest. Carsey is a rising young pitcher, and if his terms are not too high and he is signed, it is possible that under skillful Harry Wright's training he may make a world-beater. A REMINDER OF "POP" WHITTAKKB. It has lenked out that W. H. Whittaker, treasurer of the old Athletic Club, has given up $3375 to George Uorrison Taylor, the receiver of the club appointed by the court. This restitution was the result of an irregularity in connection wilh the sale of some Athletic Club stock which Mr. Whittaker bought below par and sold to the club at par. The money was paid over last Jujie, when Mr. Taylor threatened to bring criminal action against him. A suit is also pending against Chris You der Ahe to recover $lWU ou account of the failure of the St. Louis Club to play a Sunday game at Gloucester in 1«88 or 1S89, according to contract. An auditor will have to be appointed to decide who shall benefit by this unexpected find. The Indebtedness of the club, including about $41)00 to players, $9000 bonds, etc., amount* to something like &22,000. LOCAL JOTTINGS. Arrangements are being perfected for a game of indoor base hall to be played at Industrial Hall on Saturday evening, Dec. 12, between the two crack amateur teams of the city Kiverton, with Jack McFetridge as pitcher, and Athletic Club of the Schuylkill Navy, with Bergen in the box. The New York Press says that it would like to see Tommy Corcoran play short stop for New York in place of Glasscock. We have repeatedly stated that Corcoran has resigned with the Athletic Club. Now why should a repiftable newspaper incite to more contract-breaking? Manager Wright expect* good work from Tim Kecfe next season. "Manager Barnie says if the American Association forms a ten-club circuit a club will be located at New York and Brooklyn." Rtcord. That "if" just saves Baruie from becoming a false prophet. Ed. Delehanty was asked the other day where he expected to play next senson and he replied: "In Philadelphia. These other fellows may do all the jumping they please. I've had my fill." Manager Barnie is certainly a valuable man in one respect. He beats the world in keening himself and his club before the public and having both talked and written about. Secretary Kalbfus, of the Washington Club, was in town the other day for a conference with President J. Earle Wagner on the twelve-club scheme. ThePhiladelphia'Press says: "If we are to have a State League next season it is about time that the interested parties got down to work." What's the hurry? After the holidays is the time to hustle for a State organization. The New York papers quote John B. Day as saying: "I do not consider Barnie of sufficient importance to warrant me iu offering him an affront." This is quite natural considering that Barnie took Connor and Richardson from Day. In .this case two great players didn't hold Barnie as lightly as Day does. Neither do the Wagner brothers, who have given Barnie full power to engage new men, and are earnest in their praises of the sagacity he has already shown. F. C. B. AN EX-MAGNATE'S VIEW3. Kx-Treasnrer Hurry Sterne, of Cincinnati
THE IDKAL ORGANIZATION is two eight-club affairs, dwelling in harmony together and cultivating everything that will purify the game and make the sport one so attractive as to prove a magnet to the true steel iu the athletic-loving people. It is better that way, as there is then an incentive for a healthy competition for public patronage. It is better that way because the very rivalry incites partisanship aud produces patronage. It is better that way because the organizations are easier handled andean more finely adjust themselves to a balance in playing strength. Hut u permanent peace between two such is almost beyond hope, for the simple reason that it has been found absolutely impossible to confine the rivalry to a mere healthy competition. The rivalry goes to such an extent and there appears to be no remedy for it effectual that employers become
but as such a course has not been adopted yet, it would be neither justice to the players nor to the club. When Ward gets back, the story goes, something may be done iu the line of signing. Where is Ward, you ask? In North Carolina, President Byrue says, aud he ought to know. J. Montgura is deeply stuck on the pine zephyrs aud the stalking of the coon. He wants to shoot something down that way and bring it back with him. The report goes that he has several friends with him. METROPOLITAN DISTURBERS. Those New York toragen present themselves in a nice light, trying to stir up strife by stealing players of minor note from Association clubs, just at the time when everybody is crying out for peace and a strong effort being made to accomplish that object. If John B. Day and Mr. Put Powers cannot employ themselves better than in tempting
Sell-out Fame, on the Rase Ball Situation. "At one time I thought that there were some very smart men in base ball," observed Harrv Sterue, the ex-secrotary of the Cincinnati Club the other day, as he settled back in his chair to discuss flip situation. "If, however, this senseless bickering is kept up much longer I will be willing to believe that I was mistaken. One of two things must eventually occur. There will either be peace and an honest endeavor to lift the game back to its ola position on the pedestal of popular favor or there will be one. of the greatest crashes ever heard. Why, fortunes have been lost iu a senseless manner during the past two years. The League has spent money like water, and the Association is in the same position. They can't stand it, and if they keep on they will collapse together and the professional ball player will find his occupation gone.
younjr players to disgrace they had better be "There is too much sentiment in the game
demoralization. There is lots of room in ihis land for two organizations. The League and , American Association can boih live and thrive if common sense would take the place of idiocy and ruinous sentiment. I aui glad I am out of the burly burly." McKe«'» "Awful" LIII-BO at the 'I «v«-lT«4'lnb Schetut)-- Kockfon! lCi|>p!es and IlUnnl*-Iowa f.i*atЈU* Mention. ROCKFORD, 111., Nov.SO. EditorSpoHTitfo LIFE: After an extruded trip of three (3) months to the Pacific Northwest, I Bin ones more h»iiie again for the winter, anid herewith extend to you and your many tlrpusand readers a heartv Tlmnksziving gre-iit?#. It is turkey, etc., this year, tor everybody. rirfjinates and hall players ulik« nex! yrnr n\8 curtain falls en "snow balls" anil "I told yoirs^ '" Am 1 right? Time will tell the same old, old story sif the country with a war on that bus forced salaries up to ah absolute bankrupt s «i:dpoint there is one born every minute, suckers," and Chicago, U»ntou and Philadelphia have theirshari-. But lam <'.ixrfK«i«g; I have no desire to intrude upon the field so ably tilled by the army of League ami Association writers. One tiling I would like to be put on record as prt-dicrinjr, and that is an absolute failure of tiie tvvelvr-cluh scheme as the final ultimatum to the existing difficulties. All associations who have ever tried it lmv« made 11 dismal failure too many tailenders. A twelve-club arrangement gives at least eit'ht tnii-enders; and experience prove! the asteriion that losing clubs are poor money-makers. My advice would he, let the "orful war" go 011; make it a "tight r<> » finiih," ami we will all be happy to weli-onie the "survival of the fittest." If oneyi'iir of Players' League war is mn enough, this battle of the "kina«" would certainly be. TWO-EYED LEAGUE AFFAIRS. The Rockfonl* are still loyal to the TwoEyed League and are -I'M -it to stay, and never hud any iuea of joining any Western league. This is a clear ease of the "dog wagging I he tail." If any of those bankrupt cities of the defunct Western Association want to join in the formation of a circuit it will be the Illinois-Iowa League, not any other. We would like Minneapolis, St. Paul, Duluth and Oshkosh for the North, and Roi-kford, Joliet, Qnincy and Peoria for the Southern circuit. Manager Nicol has alreadj' an application from Oshkosh to join, and if Minneapolis, St. Paul and Duluth do not come in an effort will be made to get Springfield and Bloomiugton woke up aud form an exclusive Illinois League. Aurora and-Davenpert should ''get a move." The former were unfortusate in getting a manager who "done them" early in the season; the latter were killed by having their best man. Nicol. drafted by the Chicagos. In tins connection here is a case of protection that does mil protect. What benefit does a minor league club derive by having their best man drafted right iu the heat of their season for the paltry sum of $ol>0aud then, by playing to empty benches as a consequence therefrom, be obliged to succumb to the inevitable, as was the case with Davenport. What minor leagues want is nwi'e and bctttr protection. If a minor league player is good enough for a maji>r league he is cer» tainly worth more than $300 bonus. Manager Nicol is receiving letters every mail from players desiring engagements, but so far has not signed anybody, preferring to wait until after the League meeting iu January establishes the salary limit. Tiie idea of a League as proposed by your Peoria correspondent "Hud," is a good one. In any event, Rockford, Joliet, Peoria and Quincy will stick together, and they alone would not make a bad circuit if uo otheri should come in. BOCKFORD NEWS. The Rockford Base Ball Assoaiation is « chartered stock company of $5UOO. All its stock is held by bankers, brokers, merchant! and retired manufacturers, and the silly twaddle of th;it specimen ot nonentity, who mails you notes, from Ottawa, that "the rougher element is all that go to games in Rockford, the best people of the town do not," has become to be very nauseating aud withal very chestnutty, when it is a knows fact that in no city in the couutry, large or small, do you see a finer or more intelligentappearing audience than here. Again, this masquerader of the king's English bubbles forth in your issue of Nov. 21, and among other things calls the writer "my friend MeKee (I suppose if he is permitted to run at large any longer he will soon call me"Jim"), says: "He does not want to see a Western Association formed with a $20"0 salary limit, which is false; declines to visit either Rockford or Kankakee. aad finally winds up his mal apropos tirade by posing as self-appointed instructor in telling that J. Lee Rich, mond was once a pitcher for the Worcester*. Well, well, well, will wonders ever cease 1« think that such a brilliant mind should be forced to remain the balance of his halcyon days, surrounded hy the halo of his ow» brightness, in such a town as Ottawa. JAMES F. McKE* ELM IRA EVENTS. Richardson Declarer Himself--The Oat- look For L< cal Ita«e Kali, i:to. ELMIRA, N. Y., Dec. 1. Editor SPOKTINO LIFE: Danny Richardson was shown th» article iu last week's SPORTING LIFE in regard to his being dissatisfied with his contract with the Wagner brothers, and that Manager Powers thought he had a chance of securing him for next season's Giants. The great second baseman said: "I am perfectly satisfied with my contract, and as I have never broken a contract yet, I will not begin now." Danny can be found every day at his big dry goods store on Water street He is taking the best kind of care of himself, and will be found next season putting up his usual great game at the Athletics' seuoud base. Manager Powers spent a few hours here a couple of weeks ago and was entertainer! by Danny and Dock Velder, the ex-mnnager of the Elmira Club. He was on his way to Ithaca to see Harry Taylor, the captain of last season's Louisville team. Put would like to secure him for the Giants, as he is a fine all-round player and would make a good successor to Roger Connor. I don't think Harry will play with the New Yorks next year, unless Louisville goes under, as he has already signed a contract with the Louisville Club and would not break it. Billy Heine, who played with the local team last season, is running his saloon here and i.« doing a big business. He has lately put in two fine pool table-). The prospects for a team here next season are very bright, providing there is a league to get into. As Eimira was the only city that made any money in tlie New York and Pennsylvania League last season, it would be. very easy to get the required financial backing for another year. A big Athletic Association has. been organized here comprised of some of the best people in the city. They are now looking at several places nearby where they can build a club house. Herman Pitz, who put up such a fine same for the home team last season, should no! be overlooked oy m:im\jjer» in search of players. Besides being a good catcher he can play any of the infield or outfield positions. His address is 185 Graham aveuue, Brooklyn. W. H. G A HALT ADVISED.
light an arrangement that would leave him iu Columbus another year. PKSSIOH.VT WILLIAMS. George II. Williams, the genial and very wide-awake president of the Chicago Club ruude his debut in Columbus yesterday and created a most favorable impression. He rep N everything going on swimmingly in
Stringing Louisville People. Louisville, KY., Nov. 30. A man giving (he name of ,-'no»Jen has bsen here to see President Btucky, and t'.ld him he wanted to buy tho Louisville .Ball C'ub. Stncky tolj him it wasn't for sale, lie believes Snowden, who pai:| ho would come back Monday, to be an
even when their best interests are at stake, and employees are debauched. Mostly for that reason the writer has come to the conclusion that only consolidation can give a fairly permanent peace consolidation of leagues, not of clubs but it is grently feared that if the consolidated organization leaves much productive territory vacant, the whole evil
shifted to the demnition bow-wows and blalhcr-skite Jccms given another go. Wind on the stomach is tlie only crime to which Mutrie has had to confess. His record is clean so far as the vagaries ot Powers are concerned. Issuing "warnings" at $5000 « year must prove very profitable work for President
as now carried on. It is absurd to say that Cincinnati can afford to pay the salaries it did last year. The engagement of Captain Cotuiskey was a master stroke. He is a great general and a drawing card all along the line. It is » mistake to believe, however, that the success of the game centers in tiie individuality of the players. Give a leader
Unless the Public I* to Sit Down Hard on Has» Hall. The Boston Jfetvo bluntly and forcibly remarks: "Weighing theduplicity, the chicanery and the selfishness incidental to the conduct of professional base bull, it is wonderful thtt the game has been kept clean and above suspicion for so long. While tlie magnates
i i. : -ago. He is very much pirased over the emissary of the N?w York or some other League will be ugain repeated within a few years.
(ye Gods!) Phelps. And shooting off wind to like Comiskcy a lot of ambitious youngsters are devoting time and money in the endeavor
( . .in Pfefler lias so far got tcgcther, which he club dcjiroua of getting hold uf more Louisville lint there is no doubt that when the paper hold a fat snap seems to go well for one niuu and they would oretiic as much enthusiasm to throw each other down, the players tire
is certain is a better one than Anson can players.
containing this comes to hand there will be at least.
ns stars who are demanding more than they working both side* to her majesty's taste. It
scare up for next season. He had just signer!
something from your own able p?n to demon- The wind is rolling up Ik fine record for know the clubs can afford to pay. It is ab- takes that glorious good old 'sucker,' the
Penny Lyons, which makes eleven players
Sr -
'E "ill be ni'iikd strate the feasibility of Mr. Robisin's plan, hoin.- runs at HlHcru Park tlicse days, and surd to believe that tlie national gatne can public, a long time to tumble, but, when il
under contract. To those already secured post paid to ai>;.
the United States for it appears to have struck you favoradly, the hair of the rustics, (.'. Ebbetts, et al, who thrive outside a National Agreement, and does tumble, it tumbles h*rd. All linndi
will be added probably Shorty Fuller at and Canada ou-.- . ...
-UO, sii Uiontiii ior and probably you are well posted as to de- I hold forth ihc-re, continues to curl.
until the club owners return to the principles ought to let up for a while and, as Mike Kelly
feori and a hard-hitting center fielder. The
>, three luonthi
J. F* DOJUNOLLY. of that instrument just so long will there be would remark, 'Play ball.'"

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